It was so sad and even today when I see the movie I have to take a deep breath before watching the scene. Of the same opinion was the actor in a recent interview.
The horse they used was truly wonderful and they spent many months teaching him to be up to his neck with water. It is something unnatural for them. So, the way they did that scene is that they had a little lift under the water that slowly made the horse sink lower and lower. When the water reached the chin area, we cut the scene. That one scene took over two and a half weeks. Here is the video of the realization. It took months to train them. I'm always asked about this and the rumors aren't true.
In the film, you never see the horse's face go into the mud. And also, by having two horses, we would alternate which would be in the scene while the other relaxed. It's really meant to be a sad scene; this was a crucial part of the film. People always tell me that when that scene comes on, they have to close their eyes. I tell them that I understand, it's very sad and difficult to watch but it was crucial for the story. It's all about being drawn into the darkness, and, unfortunately, the horse doesn't make it [in the movie].
And because of that, even more so, Atreyu has to do it by himself without his friend and he does. But yes, the horses were really good, and both were fine. The horse they used was really wonderful and they spent a couple of months teaching her to be ok with being up to her neck with water.
That's something unfamiliar for them. So, the way they did that scene was that they had this little elevator under the water that slowly dropped the horse lower and lower. When it got to its chin area, we'd cut the scene. That one scene took over two and a half weeks. The real horse never really died. They were more careful with that horse than they were with me! I got hurt a hell of a lot more. The horse was definitely looked after well. I broke my back working on the movie and was in the hospital in traction for like a month before we started filming.
We had a horse that we were training to fall on me while we were working with the horses maybe a couple of weeks before shooting. After I broke my back, we didn't know if I'd be able to continue but I ended up healing up enough to be able to work. It was scary for a little while; I had a couple of injuries on this movie. I did a lot of my own stunts; it was just a very physical movie. But how many kids that are 12 or 13 can even say they experienced something like that?
They gave me one of the horses and a saddle as a wrap gift. But I was going to have to have it shipped and sterilized and all this stuff, so I left the horse in Germany with my riding double. He had the horse for something years. He sent me an email like 10 years ago letting me know that the horse had just passed. It had a great and wonderful life. They had a stable and a ranch in Germany. Steven Spielberg got the best one of all. He has the Auryn, which is what Atreyu wears around his neck in the movie that was a gift from the empress when he goes on his quest.
The Auryn has magic powers and it's a beautiful, beautiful prop. He was a big fan of Das Boot and we spoke quite a bit on the phone and talked about things. So, when I had my new film, I told him I'd like to show it to him because I had a feeling that for an American audience, it was a bit slow. It has a very European feel to it, and I thought that he could give me some advice about edits I could make to it and we did.
He gave me some very good suggestions about where I could make a few little cuts here and there to get the pacing up a little bit to where it would suit American audiences better. To thank him for his help, I gave him the Auryn as a gift. As a result, the American version is seven minutes shorter than the German cut is.
We decided to add music when we decided to take the movie outside of Germany into the world. We hired [composer] Giorgio Moroder later in the process. The film was already done and already playing in German theaters when Moroder came in and was asked to do a song and a few parts of the score where he added things that made the story even richer. All of a sudden, there was all this added flavor that came from somebody else. The main thing that Moroder added to the film was the theme song, which I loved.
I heard it again recently when my assistant Barbara sent me this clip from Jimmy Fallon and Steven Colbert singing the song. I couldn't believe it! It was just so funny, and so amazing. I remember when they did the recording of that song in Munich with Limahl and Giorgio Moroder. Limahl was a fairly known singer in the U. It's not an easy song to sing.
He said it took him giving Limahl multiple glasses of champagne so he could relax enough to really get the courage to go for it.
I had gone to the Tokyo Music Festival and there was lots of famous people there, it was a huge event. It was all a competition that had various judges, and that year, Giorgio was one of the judges. My manager at the time was an Irish guy with a very feisty personality named Billy Gaff.
He'd managed Rod Stewart during his heyday. Billy was very charming. People would say he could sell ice to an Eskimo. So, he sat down and spoke to Giorgio and told him how I was going to be the next big thing.
He convinced him that he needed to work with me. When I got back to London, Giorgio's office called and told my manager that he was working on a song for a film and he wanted to try my voice out for it. I flew to Munich to record it.
I remember hearing from the president of EMI Records at the time that he didn't like the song and was thinking about not releasing it. My manager was on the phone just yelling at the guy. I was really young at the time, only like 23 years old or something. Billy Gaff went to bat for me and explained that the song was a hit and needed to be released. He played a big part in getting that song out.
He believed in me and told Giorgio about my voice, first of all. And then he helped convince EMI that the song was a hit. He was right, too. People get offended by everything nowadays. To all that commented on this post, even the ones that felt it nesessary to belittle others…thank you!
I needed something interesting and funny to read in the bathroom. Chris G. Thanx for the Ridgmont high visual.
Even when the Nothing consumes the whole world save for a single grain of sand, there is still hope. There is still love. This story is about not giving up, and carrying on, even when everything falls apart.
I get that you hated The Neverending Story. But trying to connect it with a debilitating mental disease is desperate. Depression connected with a sad event or PTSD is only a small percentage. Most struggle with neurochemical imbalances off and on their entire lives. Maybe when you have struggled for years to just be able to function at work and life or to enjoy everyday activities instead of wanting to hide.
Maybe when you have endured weeks of horrible side effects from medicine after medicine in a search to find the one that makes you feel a little bit NORMAL again. Joking about a disease that already carries so much stigma and shame in our society is the lowest form of humor. You do understand this is a joke right?
I was pretty amused. This article was great—coming from someone who also has struggled with depression off and on for most of my life. I struggle with depression and have for nine years now, and I found this article funny.
It happens to all of us, and being exposed to the concept around the age of is nothing but a good thing. The logic in this article is laughable, not researched at all, and is nothing but the projection of your own feelings on the movie. There is no logic in this article. Kardashian sports neither hooves nor horns and therefore your poorly-researched scribe is laughable and wrong. You are projecting your own satanic leanings on a defenseless celebrity.
Good day! Genetic engineering to stop aging, and then figure out how to make redundant backups of our minds for when our immortal bodies eventually get killed. I could go on and on with books that talked about death and life and loss. Death is a part of life and sadness is dangerous but only if you allow it to consume you which is the lesson they are teaching.
How about you go fill up your kindle or smart phone with some classic childrens literature and then come back and talk to us about modern versions. We have a word for people like you… Pretentious. A closely related word is arrogant, but pretentious is spot on. Other people who fall in the same category as yourself include vegetarians who think they are better than omnivores. People who like going for walks who think they are better than people who enjoy an afternoon watching TV.
People who listened to a music band prior to them getting famous, thinking they are better than the people who only started liking them after the fact. But the folk who masturbate their ego with self praise for simply happening upon them sooner than me really baffle me. I do too! It causes me to lump you into a group of very simple and narrow minded people who rate the value of other people with excessively arbitrary standards. Cobb, you are a badass with words.
I only wish my thoughts were so masterfully crafted into words. Thanks for putting my sentiments into text! None whatsoever. Sad really.
Maybe that is why so many people are depressed. Everyone lost their damn sense of humor. Ya, we have to lighten up. The movie came out before the generation you spoke of was even born. So NO, you werent the first to experience it. This movie came out in , and so the first generation to see and be scarred by this movie were kids who were anywhere from what, during those years. That is pure Gen X. If you imagine that the Gen Xers with younger siblings would have passed the movie onto their brothers and sisters in the following years, you can probably safely contend this movie is a huge problem for anyone , but definitely Gen X has the distinct honor of saying they were first scarred by it.
After all, Atreyu has Artax back in the end of the movie. But we need to ask how that was possible. I watched this movie again with a friend about a month ago and I marveled at my ability to understand the content of the story.
The more attentive version of me saw so much I did not see as a younger sprout. Basically the story only goes on if the reader gives a name to the child-like Empress.
Otherwise Fantasia is doomed to perish and be consumed into the great nothing. The reader much keep engaging the story and making wishes. At least one metaphor is important to seeing what is going on in this story; the ivory tower. There is a world the reader is learning about, the world of Fantasia. The people who are in charge of this world are in the ivory tower. But, the reader eventually learns that the people in the ivory tower are powerless to save their own world. So, in order to save that world, the reader must give a name to the child-Empress.
Atreyu loosing his horse to sadness is appropriately devastating. Especially in what it represents in the story. But, when the kid finally learns that he must name the Empress or rather literally engage the narrative then Fantasia has hope. Remember, at the end of the movie there is a scene where Atreyu is riding Artax and the world of Fantasia is being recreated and sustained now that the boy has engaged his imagination and is now hopeful at least for another generation.
Your comment was thoughtful, insightful, articulate and really impressed me. Atreyu is loosing Artax from this life like an arrow from a bow, sending him flying into the new world that will exist when the Empress is saved. Reblogged this on VigilanTv. Watership Down was way more traumatizing, and it was on TV! We would stand at the bus stop the morning after an episode, unblinking, and speaking of it in hushed tones.
That was awful. This really does happen to some people, perhaps many people unfortunately. He went on to fight the greater apathy: The Nothing. Atreyu barely made it out of the swamp himself without being aided by luck. Thank you. Keep doing what your doing. Very funny article! The root of my depression, however, is the number of people in the comments taking this article seriously. I LOVE this comment…. Since the movie actually came out in , and kids watching it would be, say, years old, this article would be for yr olds, I would think.
Well, the working theory was that the film has been readily available on VHS and later DVD since its original release, so it could have been viewed easily by children ever since then. The worst part of the movie for me was not when Artax died, it was when Gmork was hiding in the cave and talking.
I still see that scene in my nightmares complete with its poor production quality and cheesy fight scene. Sooooo good. But you capped the age at Ages would likely make more sense as there was a generation of children who saw this before the generation you mention was born. I love this movie and your theory actually makes sense. Great write up. At times it felt like I was listening to a Louis CK rant. Thank you! Reblogged this on klpprsn: me without the vowels. This was hardly the saddest thing our generation saw.
Bambi, for one. This is only one of many. And the horse does come back at the end. I remember watching a land before time in class and being asked to leave the classroom because I was crying hysterically and hyperventilating…. He named her after his mother, I think. But I have no recollection of what that name actually was. Is this author for real? All liberal-arts majors should be locked up. This type of bullshit is the mis-education that kids read on the internet all day.
Not sure if you were aiming for funny for doucey but I think you achieved the later. While also managing to miss the fact that this is supposed to be humorous. Reblogged this on Branden Scott Stewart and commented: A great sardonic piece. To go a step farther, should we stress the point that Atreyu himself was about to be consumed by the swamps until he was saved by his luck dragon? Are they suggesting that sadness will surely get us too without luck enough to be manifested by a dragon?! Utter twaddlespeak, says I.
You know what I learned? I learned life sucks. People fucking die. Some die of depression. Some die needlessly. But you know what, kids? The fucking hero goes on.
The fucking hero mourns, sure, but the hero fucking moves on. And now matter what they move on and conquer evil. They move on and save the world. I mourned my best friend, the horse. But I got up and moved on to save the fucking world. So go cry and cu up under your covers. I have a fucking world to save. Jim Choma. Pretty brutal scene, sure, but for me Littlefoot losing his mother in The Land Before Time will always be the top contender.
I think The Never Ending Story must of made some people just too sad to understand hyperbole and humor. Do some better research doucher. The movie is thirty years old. This has always been one of my most favorite movies. I watched it over and over every day as a child, rewinding my taped-off-the-television-with-commercials VHS and watching it again. And again. My older sister hates this movie because of me. Yes, the horse-dying scene was definitely traumatic when I saw it as a year-old kid in the mids.
Also, I love The Dark Crystal, but that messed with me too. You all need to watch the movie again at the end everyone who died was alive again the horse was in the second movie. Once I was really depressed for weeks cause I got dumped. At the same time my sister was depressed cause her husband cheated and her marriage ended.
We were hanging out smoking cigarettes being depressed when I farted and shit my pants. Reblogged this on Big Blue Dot Y'all. I am now depressed after reading the comments of people who think you are serious. I understand that laughing at or making fun of people with depression, or laughing at depression in general is wrong. However, this does none of the above. This article is trying to induce laughter, which, I believe, helps people with depression.
Then you have comments from people insulting the author, and then replies on those comments insulting the commenter, and its just a vicious cycle. Thanks : Namaste brothers and sisters. It was Heart -Wrenchingly sad. Not even just the horse scene, but the beginning of the movie with the dumpster, the scary wolf thing, etc.. You see? Not sure if anyone else mentioned this or not, but the horse they used in the movie? Actually died. Because of the mud. So yeah, talk about fucked up. Some animal rights groups objected to how the scene was filmed because the horse was chained to an elevator that could go up or down.
Noah Hathaway got injured during a take when the horse jumped, causing Hathaway to jam his leg against the elevator. I have almost died in a swamp of sadness. Also known as a Womens Health Exam. Clean your Vaginas ladies.. Your provider thanks you. Oh, forgot about old Prime, didjya!? This IS why our generation is fucked up. Who is raising them?! Sorry for the interrobangs —?! Just really emotional right now. So true. The same was true for puff the magic dragon. HIs best friend stopped visiting him and let him die heartbroken and alone in a cave.
Reblogged this on My Enterprising Life. Ground Zero. Boo hoo. No, children need to be taught this way. Through scenes that would make a child weep for the loss, because that means the point, though harsh, is getting across. Then you live FOR them, to fight against the sadness that made them sink in the first place. I think the Japanese followed this exact formula.
You have a depression because you ate shit, drink shit and on pills they call it vitamins from 2 year age. Say how many hours you spend in car and how many hours you spend outside — in nature? How many hours you spend in shopping malls and TV and how many hours you spend doing your hobby? That is your swamp! I am remiss at being associated with a generation that just looks at the here and now and not what waits for us.
Arguments in valid???? Fuck this stupid topic but argument forms or syllogisms have many valid forms and depending on being inclusive or not determines weather or not it is sound or cogent. They teach 1st year all the way to philosophy grad degrees on arguments or propositional logic.
So be a douche and make radical clames. Ya you sound uniformed or possibly its just hinting to your age. B There for A example of modus ponus a valid argument form. Plato and every mind since shutters at ur ignorance.
Two both very powerful emotions. First things first. It never fully becomes one because the writer is stupid. Then when she realizes that she is sad but not depressed surprise, she figured out the difference!
Clear enough? Substitute sadness or depression in this article with the words cancer, or AIDS, or kidney failure, or heart attack, or pulmonary embolism, or stroke, or multiple sclerosis or any other blameless disease you can think of.
Now I ask you, how unfunny does this fucking article all of the sudden become? If you are old enough to remember seeing NES as a child, then you are too old to be this stupid. Grow the fuck up and stop embarrassing yourselves. Moral of the story?
Including myself. Even so, its thrown about much like the word love. I strongly disagree with you on one fact. Depression is a figment of your imagination.
You create your sadness, anger, and all other emotions for that matter. If you have depression its your fault. Depression is actually, in no small part, a medical condition with both physical and psychological effects, all very real. It is primarily an imbalance of the chemicals in the brain — often times crippling — and generally triggered when faced with a trauma, whether physical or psychological.
God gods, emotions themselves are — at their very core — chemical responses to physical and psychological stimuli, as is. Depression is not funny. Depressed since I was ten or so, not really sure because it was never diagnosed until I was almost The clinical diagnosis was a mild dysthymia gradual depression ; of course, this was before the shrink knew I had been suicidal at ten.
I spent about 2 and half years on anti-depressants and bipolar medication lithium salts, which, at least initially, have an interesting effect of blocking suicidal thinking , and a whole array of sleeping medications during a particularly bad episode, coupled with near weekly psychotherapy with an all-Harvard psychiatrist. This is in combination with many conversations with the half-dozen or so friends I have with similar conditions, including one Iraq vet with PTSD who sadly succumbed not long after finishing college.
Similarly, it is not a disease in the sense of cancer or AIDS, which have well-defined vectors of approach, if not yet fully understood in every sense. Those victories, coupled with a win in the Vosburgh Stakes , earned him that year's Eclipse Aw ard as champion sprinter.
As Artax came by, he attempted to hit him and the horse moved over several paths, making contact with other horses and wrenching his ankle. Ferrell was not injured. Artax was retired to stud in
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